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HarderFaster Forums >> General Mayhem >> Mark Duggan : lawful killing Author Pages (21):  « Prev ... «  9  10  11  12  [13]  14  15  16  17  » ... Next »    ceekay venomous fairy Registered: Feb 2010 Posts: 39935 - Threads: 1064 Location: In a wide open space 2016 Winner Thread Honourable Mention Member Quote: Donnie-B wrote on 13-01-2014 09:42 AM And people on death row have generally asked for it. Generally, they have. Crime, time, etc. If you willingly commit a heinous crime in a country that has the death penalty, that's your problem if you get caught and executed. "Do you believe in the devil? You know, a supreme evil being dedicated to the temptation, corruption, and destruction of man?" "I'm not sure that man needs the help." (Calvin & Hobbes) Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 13-01-2014 10:47 AM Coops Registered: Jul 2003 Posts: 18545 - Threads: 513 Location: I wonder why they decided to pull the taxi over. If they believed that he had a gun wouldn't that be putting the driver and other members of the public in danger? Shouldn't they have followed the taxi and waited for Duggan to get out and away from an area where others may have been harmed? http://essexvintagefair.com/ Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 13-01-2014 10:50 AM Lozz Registered: Dec 2003 Posts: 9490 - Threads: 41 Location: Quote: Coops wrote on 13-01-2014 10:50 AM I wonder why they decided to pull the taxi over. If they believed that he had a gun wouldn't that be putting the driver and other members of the public in danger? Shouldn't they have followed the taxi and waited for Duggan to get out and away from an area where others may have been harmed? No offence Coops, you may well have experience in special operations tactics like this, but this is why having video cameras is not going to make much difference to public acceptance or outrage following any situation like this. Protocol was followed here to the letter, and then you have a trained, experienced officer exercising human judgment at the scene. Did he reasonably believe Duggan was armed such that he needed to shoot him? Probably. Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 13-01-2014 11:28 AM Quin. ??? Registered: Oct 2010 Posts: 33316 - Threads: 426 Location: london [Edited by Quin. on 13-01-2014 11:34 AM] Quote: ceekay wrote on 13-01-2014 10:46 AM I'd like to see you do their job, I really, REALLY would. You're so quick to criticise and theorise about what happens every time, put them in a negative light constantly. I have already said I wouldn't do their job, do keep up. i have also said the it may have been the right course of action, but that there are enough inconstancies to cause doubt. And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those that could not hear the music -Nietzsche Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 13-01-2014 11:33 AM Donnie-B Registered: May 2012 Posts: 4133 - Threads: 366 Location: London Quote: Lozz wrote on 13-01-2014 11:28 AM No offence Coops, you may well have experience in special operations tactics like this, but this is why having video cameras is not going to make much difference to public acceptance or outrage following any situation like this. Protocol was followed here to the letter, and then you have a trained, experienced officer exercising human judgment at the scene. Did he reasonably believe Duggan was armed such that he needed to shoot him? Probably. Laughable. They didn't even see him sling his gun from the cab. Too busy eating fucking doughnuts. I joke. But the serious point is they fucked up massively throughout this situation. Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 13-01-2014 11:34 AM ceekay venomous fairy Registered: Feb 2010 Posts: 39935 - Threads: 1064 Location: In a wide open space 2016 Winner Thread Honourable Mention Member Quote: Quin. wrote on 13-01-2014 11:33 AM I have already said I wouldn't do their job, do keep up. i have also said the it may have been the right course of action, but that there are enough inconstancies to cause doubt. There could be live televised footage and you would probably accuse it of being photoshopped or edited. You never have a single good thing to say about police ever. Even when they have done the right thing. Your hatred of them blinds you to anything positive. Much like politicians. It's a little sad, really. Mind you, you are not the only one, so at least you have company "Do you believe in the devil? You know, a supreme evil being dedicated to the temptation, corruption, and destruction of man?" "I'm not sure that man needs the help." (Calvin & Hobbes) Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 13-01-2014 11:36 AM ceekay venomous fairy Registered: Feb 2010 Posts: 39935 - Threads: 1064 Location: In a wide open space 2016 Winner Thread Honourable Mention Member Quote: pieman wrote on 13-01-2014 02:47 AM Also, what the f**k were people from the National Union of Teachers doing at this 'protest', what exactly has a seedy lowlife's deserved death and its fallout got to do with education? Pity the poor kids who get taught by these bellends, thank f**k it won't be mine. NUT knew there would be some sort of coverage and any coverage that brings attention to their plight helps them, or some such bull... "Do you believe in the devil? You know, a supreme evil being dedicated to the temptation, corruption, and destruction of man?" "I'm not sure that man needs the help." (Calvin & Hobbes) Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 13-01-2014 11:37 AM Quin. ??? Registered: Oct 2010 Posts: 33316 - Threads: 426 Location: london [Edited by Quin. on 13-01-2014 11:42 AM] Quote: ceekay wrote on 13-01-2014 11:36 AM There could be live televised footage and you would probably accuse it of being photoshopped or edited. You never have a single good thing to say about police ever. Even when they have done the right thing. Your hatred of them blinds you to anything positive. Much like politicians. It's a little sad, really. Mind you, you are not the only one, so at least you have company Go and troll Coops, I for one am not going to give this nonsense any time, I said earlier in this thread that they got it spot on with the Lee Rigby situation for example and have at numerous other times given credit to the police where it is due and have frequently said that they do a good job on the whole. I know how I feel about them and if you think it is hatred then that is your opinion but it's daft and unsurprising. And saying that I would say that it is edited or photoshopped is ludicrous, I mean really, come on. And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those that could not hear the music -Nietzsche Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 13-01-2014 11:38 AM All times are GMT. The time now is 20:07:33         Pages (21):  « Prev ... «  9  10  11  12  [13]  14  15  16  17  » ... 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